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oijkuij 10 hours ago [-]
If folks like this kind of thing, I discovered https://bento.page/ from a HN post and have been using it off and on for the past few months. It has a much larger featureset but is specifically focused on presentations (for now!). Unlike this project, the editor and content embed themselves in an html file, so you aren't dependent on the host site existing to serve the editor.
Maybe I'm a 2026 luddite but I can't bring myself to read about let alone try using products whose landing page is such a cookie cutter AI design. At least put some effort in to sand off the horrible unnecessary gloss and choose different fonts, colour schemes and layouts from every other project.
I am gradually becoming resigned to the fact that I'll have to get over this prejudice, though I'm not sure how I will.
mtford 3 hours ago [-]
That and the "The boring deck is dead. One file killed it."
It makes me kinda tense up - I've become almost allergic to it. Kinda interesting really.
NewsaHackO 8 hours ago [-]
I agree with you, but it is so funny that three years ago, a website that look like this would probably make the front page for its excellent design alone. Now, it gives off similar energy to a wix website.
earthnail 3 hours ago [-]
Landing pages are always a proxy for quality. Quality in implementation, quality in domain knowledge, in communication…
At a time when building such a page was hard, it communicated quality in implementation. Now it fakes that, and that is deceptive and therefore met with negative reviews reaction.
I find it completely logical.
thih9 5 hours ago [-]
You are right, then again: I think three years ago someone would have commented about the gloss in the background as well (saying that it’s unhelpful, distracting and resource intensive).
troupo 52 minutes ago [-]
Three years ago it would probably be "ah yeah, the same corporate/bento box style page as literally every page out there".
pndy 36 minutes ago [-]
We had few submissions and links in comments this week to some very "young" projects and their home pages looked like pressed from the same machine.
But if it works for people who just want to share their software and avoid working around the packaging and presentation, then I guess "it is what it is".
altmanaltman 5 hours ago [-]
Not only the design but the text. Like it says so much and so little at the same time and constantly repeats the same cliches like "the file is the app" or "the api is the x". Unmemorable, unfocused and boring is what it comes across. I know devs don't care about marketing copy but it does make a difference on how you're presenting your app to first time potential users.
JMiao 6 hours ago [-]
it's a fair criticism though. learning and eventually relying on new tools is an investment. it helps to know the developer is invested too, not just moonlighting.
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mdrzn 3 hours ago [-]
same, i've been using it extensively and it's very convenient having the ability to let Codex/ClaudeCode generate a whole deck, and then do the last edits myself in the browser.
altern8 2 hours ago [-]
Way too complicated. Tiny Office is nice because it's minimalistic and intuitive. Bad comparison
As a kid in the late 1980s, my dad got me a PC (an Olivetti IBM clone to be precise).
I distinctly remember that there were separate apps for spreadsheets (Lotus 1-2-3 [0]), charts (Harvard Graphics [1]) and word processing (Chi Writer [2]).
And now we just have a basic office suite for free in one website.
I'm intrigued about the "Trip Planner" being a top-level app. Only tried it in a very surface level way, but the recent trips I've planned (Ottawa for 6 people, Cancun for ~20) have ended up as an ugly mishmash of spreadsheets + google maps saved locations list + random chatgpt sessions.
It feels like there's an unmet need there for managing something more flexible than a minute by minute itinerary, maybe like a list of must-do and want-do activities and dining options, with the system able to figure out what is open when and has other constraints like the weather, costs, what activities pair well together, which group members some things are more or less suited to, what the contact details are for things like a private tour, etc etc.
jll29 1 hours ago [-]
Definitely there is a need, as you say, but the Internet lacks a cross-site (DB-like) transaction capability. Hotel bookings and flight leg bookings are interdependent, and you will want to lock them in (transaction "COMMIT") once the complete path has been validated as available; if, in contrast, one flight leg or one hotel night are unavailable, the whole plan path may have to be cancelled.
Such a tool would be enormously helpful even for individuals traveling (e.g. business people or scientists visiting customers or trade fairs), which is important as this massively increases market size/potential user base scale.
Why not just get your agent to write LaTeX? Use the beamer template and get a much more professional, customisable, git-commitable and transferable presentation.
simonw 8 hours ago [-]
You inspired me to knock together a LaTeX version of the same pattern - lets you drop LaTeX in the URL so you can link to the rendered version.
Then why not typst? Much faster to render and far more ergonomic/human-understandable when you eventually have to touch something inside.
groestl 2 hours ago [-]
Or typst, did that with my CV.
plasticeagle 1 hours ago [-]
"Encrypted here: the service holds only ciphertext, and only until then. Up to a hundred links a day from one address."
Random selection of one of the many, many pieces of text in the user interface for whatever this is. What does that mean? Does that mean anything?
polyterative 59 minutes ago [-]
My recent strategy to design presentations has been to record meetings, summarize them and dump it all in onn agent. It can create something that is pretty much perfect very quickly. It's all about context and giving to agents as much of it. Of course you need to prompt them a lot to focus on specific areas you want, but the extra raw context really does help.
Open street map servers aren't really meant to be used in end user applications. They are primarily to support the editing of the map data. Usage like this should be with a provider like Mapbox, or your own supplied tiles.
jdranczewski 2 hours ago [-]
I've recently found out that this is not quite true - while the primary purpose of their tile servers is mapping and editing applications, they do allow third party apps to use the servers as long as they follow usage policies: https://operations.osmfoundation.org/policies/tiles/
For my own needs I usually just go for https://openfreemap.org/ though, I like the default style, and it feels maybe a little faster.
ktzar 1 hours ago [-]
It's a shame the self-hosting route is mostly based on Cloudfare's cloud services and there's no documented way to set it up locally using Docker-compose and sqlite (or Postgres) for storage. Great tool, though!
oidar 11 hours ago [-]
Is there no way to open saved documents? Like it won't open a .csv, .txt or .ics file for example?
ArekDymalski 5 hours ago [-]
Yeah, the concept and execution are really impressive but lack of any import is a real blocker I think. Especially in case of spreadsheets - quite often they are not started from scratch, but require previous data or data from other sources etc.
pseudosavant 10 hours ago [-]
That gap surprised me too. But I couldn't find any way to open a saved document. I think it is just based on the URL.
danhite 4 hours ago [-]
FYI, I see the story behind this is given by the co-founder at:
It seems they had the idea originally 6 years ago and did versions of it, but
> We moved on, and sadly, those sites fell off the web, and the old links all broke.
rcarmo 29 minutes ago [-]
This is brilliant. Just brilliant.
mogoh 2 hours ago [-]
This is vibecoded in three days.
The chances that this is usable now or be around in a year are tiny.
It looks good on the surface and I like to be proven wrong in a year.
self_awareness 13 minutes ago [-]
Why this is attractive? Honest question, I'd like to know but I can't figure out why. (Yes, I would be a horrible salesman)
Why someone spends time on making this, and why someone would want to spend time using this?
Much more advanced software is available for free for all platforms. Why not just go and install LibreOffice?
rezaprima 3 hours ago [-]
reminds me to TiddlyWiki that saves to itself [0][1]
The word processor is buggy. When switching between touch typing and swiping the cursor ends up in the middle of words.
ktzar 30 minutes ago [-]
You might be feeling the vibes...
ent101 11 hours ago [-]
can I do a PR for live collaboration? to be transparent, I'm going to use my own project puter.js for webrtc, but the project is open-source (https://github.com/HeyPuter/puter)
haisin5555 4 hours ago [-]
To be honest, it looks amazing, but it would be great if there is a guide or like a "how to" cause I'm not sure how to use it.
self_awareness 11 minutes ago [-]
"Not sure how to use it"? What do you mean? Where's the complication? What are you having problems with?
hollowonepl 6 hours ago [-]
I’m waiting until somebody vibe code a proper desktop apps to provide more diversity than MS vs Open Office. just like I see options blossomed in the “Creative Suite” field.
But maybe I’m just one of those who don’t like web office apps and/or google docs related workflows.
I like stuff like this. Have you considered real time collaboration? Your not to far off from this with something like web sockets.
Edit: realized it looks like the data is stored in the url, which is a neat approach but I guess its not really that close.
nine_k 11 hours ago [-]
It's entirely possible to update the URL in browser without reloading the page.
Permalinks are needed to share documents, which would be something like a link shortener, with the target updating as the document is updated.
nearoh 3 hours ago [-]
The advent of AI being able to reverse engineer anything will lead to an age of open source software being the expectation.
rullelito 2 hours ago [-]
More like open prompts, so you don't have to trust "foreign" code.
oblio 2 hours ago [-]
The problem with open prompts is:
If I ask 10 of the best developers on the planet to build me something and describe it in great detail, they will all build wildly different things unless I actually point them at the exact thing. And even then, the intent might be identical and the surface might be identical, but everything else in between will be different. Oh, and quality will still vary even in this best base scenario.
That's going to be even worse with LLMs. We would need the exact LLM model and its overall configuration (for open weights), the exact prompts and then the luck of the draw.
We should still encourage open prompts, but it's not a panacea.
Woodi 5 hours ago [-]
Do "office suite" really need to be http app ?? Such hackers friendly trend...
lossyalgo 35 minutes ago [-]
You would rather trust a package installer and/or binary executable that might inject malware like a keyboard logger, bitcoin miner, back orifice, etc?
eviks 6 hours ago [-]
> free office suite where your document is inside the link and easy to share
How is it easy to share megabytes encoded in a link?
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inatreecrown2 6 hours ago [-]
The Animator app is nice and simple, I would like to have something like it as a standalone app.
mattoxic 10 hours ago [-]
I was musing on something like this. There is non zero chance that some US administration disables GSuite / Office365 for all of us living in shithole countries.
bartvk 3 hours ago [-]
There's always OpenOffice, LibreOffice and friends.
If you add a PDF annotation to this, it’d cover 100% of my (admittedly generic) needs. I know how big of an ask that can (used to?) be.
nine_k 10 hours ago [-]
Putting a PDF into the URL is not entirely impossible, but comes with serious limitations %)
johschmitz 4 hours ago [-]
I guess the PDF wouldn't have to be stored in the application/URL? Just a tool to load it, fill+annotate+sign it and export back to disk.
nine_k 3 hours ago [-]
The specialty of all apps here is that the entire document is in the URL.
It's a great idea, but this limits the size of the serialized document to 2048 kiB for Chrome, and 64 kiB for Firefox.
shevy-java 6 hours ago [-]
I'd wish LibreOffice would have collab-editing by default for everything, as an option.
EGreg 6 hours ago [-]
This is so well done!
The only bug I found is that the presentation previews in dark mode have the text as black on a dark background, when it should be white (matching the canvas text).
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syngrog66 9 hours ago [-]
so... the worst possible way to provide the functionality in question
and the functionality has been available already for decades. solved problems, kiddos
Maybe I'm a 2026 luddite but I can't bring myself to read about let alone try using products whose landing page is such a cookie cutter AI design. At least put some effort in to sand off the horrible unnecessary gloss and choose different fonts, colour schemes and layouts from every other project.
I am gradually becoming resigned to the fact that I'll have to get over this prejudice, though I'm not sure how I will.
It makes me kinda tense up - I've become almost allergic to it. Kinda interesting really.
At a time when building such a page was hard, it communicated quality in implementation. Now it fakes that, and that is deceptive and therefore met with negative reviews reaction.
I find it completely logical.
But if it works for people who just want to share their software and avoid working around the packaging and presentation, then I guess "it is what it is".
I distinctly remember that there were separate apps for spreadsheets (Lotus 1-2-3 [0]), charts (Harvard Graphics [1]) and word processing (Chi Writer [2]).
And now we just have a basic office suite for free in one website.
0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_1-2-3
1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Graphics
2 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChiWriter
It feels like there's an unmet need there for managing something more flexible than a minute by minute itinerary, maybe like a list of must-do and want-do activities and dining options, with the system able to figure out what is open when and has other constraints like the weather, costs, what activities pair well together, which group members some things are more or less suited to, what the contact details are for things like a private tour, etc etc.
Such a tool would be enormously helpful even for individuals traveling (e.g. business people or scientists visiting customers or trade fairs), which is important as this massively increases market size/potential user base scale.
Here's a deck I had it generate about how the URL format works: https://bit.ly/4yRBc1v
That last slide with a QR code that purports to embed the entire document/deck is intriguing.
I presume there are practical limits to the file size here?
And images inside slides must be impossible to fit it right away?
https://tools.simonwillison.net/latex
Random selection of one of the many, many pieces of text in the user interface for whatever this is. What does that mean? Does that mean anything?
This recently came across my radar as Home Assistant has migrated to the vector tiles hosted directly by OSMF for all deployments: https://github.com/home-assistant/frontend/pull/53816
For my own needs I usually just go for https://openfreemap.org/ though, I like the default style, and it feels maybe a little faster.
https://aboard.com/introducing-tinylittleoffice-com/
It seems they had the idea originally 6 years ago and did versions of it, but
> We moved on, and sadly, those sites fell off the web, and the old links all broke.
Why someone spends time on making this, and why someone would want to spend time using this?
Much more advanced software is available for free for all platforms. Why not just go and install LibreOffice?
[0] https://tiddlywiki.com
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiddlyWiki
But maybe I’m just one of those who don’t like web office apps and/or google docs related workflows.
Edit: realized it looks like the data is stored in the url, which is a neat approach but I guess its not really that close.
Permalinks are needed to share documents, which would be something like a link shortener, with the target updating as the document is updated.
If I ask 10 of the best developers on the planet to build me something and describe it in great detail, they will all build wildly different things unless I actually point them at the exact thing. And even then, the intent might be identical and the surface might be identical, but everything else in between will be different. Oh, and quality will still vary even in this best base scenario.
That's going to be even worse with LLMs. We would need the exact LLM model and its overall configuration (for open weights), the exact prompts and then the luck of the draw.
We should still encourage open prompts, but it's not a panacea.
How is it easy to share megabytes encoded in a link?
It's a great idea, but this limits the size of the serialized document to 2048 kiB for Chrome, and 64 kiB for Firefox.
The only bug I found is that the presentation previews in dark mode have the text as black on a dark background, when it should be white (matching the canvas text).
and the functionality has been available already for decades. solved problems, kiddos